Interview with Tonya Zavasta

Where do you come from and where do you
live now?
I was born in the former Soviet Union. My husband's
family had wanted to immigrate to America for
generations, and we were able to do so in 1991.
How many times have you circled the sun?
47 But in 1997 the raw food
lifestyle created a wormhole that reversed the direction of my
orbit.
How young do people say you look, and how
young do you feel?
My favorite comment is when people find out that
I have been married for 25 years. They
are always incredulous: "No way! Did you get married when
you were five?" It's hard to say how young I feel since I
spent my youth feeling and looking less than my best. If I were
going to guess, I'd say that I feel like I am 21--old enough to
be past the roller-coaster of adolescence, but young enough to
be looking into the future with excitement and anticipation.
What led you to this lifestyle?
I have a very special appreciation for health and beauty because
growing up I did not have either one of them. I was born in the
former Soviet Union with bilateral hip defects and one leg shorter
than the other. Growing with infirmity all my life I dreamed to
walk normally. In 1997 advances in orthopedic science raised my
hopes of addressing my congenital hip problems. There was a good
chance that my limp could be corrected through extensive hip replacement
surgeries. After previous operations, I knew that nothing undermines
the health and appearance like nesthetics. Here I was with my
lifetime dream about to be fulfilled but that very fulfillment
would leave me aging and ailing. I was looking for a way to offset
the devastating effects of multiple operations. The search for
health led me first to the vegetarian diet, then vegan, and finally
the raw food lifestyle.
I came to realize that the raw food diet offered
the best solution to all of my problems. I really did not expect
the dramatic changes that I experienced. I was just looking for
a way to survive multiple operations without becoming an old,
sick, and unhappy woman. I certainly got that, but the results
far exceeded my modest expectations.
What is your professional background?
I earned a master's in Mechanical Engineering when I lived in
Russia, and earned a master's in mathematics at the University
of Memphis after we came to America. I taught mathematics and
physics at the college and high school levels. I had been admitted
to the University's doctorate program at about the same time as
I began to experiment with raw foods.
The possibilities of the raw food diet seemed endless
and I wanted to learn everything about it. But mathematics is
a demanding mistress. It would not allow me to have another interest
on the side. My fascination with what I was discovering took over
my studies at the University. The results I was getting were so
fascinating that I gave up my postgraduate mathematical studies
(to the complete consternation of my family and friends) and immersed
myself in researching the raw food lifestyle. The relationship
between health and appearance became my special interest. My book
Your Right To Be Beautiful is a reflection of this journey.
Is there a particular day or event that
signified the starting point in journey? Oh, yes! I remember
that day distinctly. I was still in the doctoral program in mathematical
studies at the University of Memphis. One day a renowned female
professor visited the class to present a lecture on her research
in some area of theoretical mathematics. It doesn't matter what
it was to the layman; doctoral students themselves were barely
able to comprehend the brilliance of her mind. What was significant
was the effect it had on me and the future course of my life.
She was in her seventies, looked sick and decrepit.
Her hair was made up of random patches springing up around her
bald scalp. I was on the first row and was nearly overcome by
the dreadful smell emanating from her. It was as though she were
already dead and decaying even as her brilliant mind continued
to function in complicated mathematical formulas. The contrast
between her intellect and her appearance was intensified by the
beautiful calculations she was writing on the board with an arthritic,
liver-spotted hand.
Watching her was almost painful. I looked around.
The body language of the audience seemed to reflect my own reaction.
It seemed everyone wanted her to leave the podium. Everyone was
uncomfortable. I could not follow her logic because I was staring
in dismay at what could be my future. As beauty conscious as I
was, it scared me. Being appearance conscious as I was, I thought
at that moment that senility would be a blessing compared to having
a brilliant mind encased in crumbling ruins. In fact if she had
been senile, I would have been less judgmental about her looks.
It was as though she lived so deeply in her mind
that she was unaware of the image she conveyed. The thought that
she could not help her condition did not even cross my mind. I
knew if it were me I would fight. I wouldn't be trying to come
up with another theorem, but seeking the solution to altering
my appearance. Suddenly I realized she wasn't wrong. I was the
one who was in the wrong field of research. She loved mathematics
more than anything else in the world. She had forsaken everything,
even her very self to contribute to her favorite discipline.
At the time, I was too terrified of seeing myself
in her to be charitable or even rational. Most people at her age
do not display such a mighty intellect so how could it be that
this mind did not tell her to improve her physical well-being.
I was appalled to see such a contrast: such preoccupation with
the development of the mind and such neglect of the physical body.
Exalting the mind to the mortification of the body seemed so wrong
to me.
At least some of this intellect could have been
used to research how to improve her condition. All proof of her
brilliant intellect, all display of knowledge seemed useless to
me if it was not used to take care of her body. For me cherishing
both the mind and body was the most powerful objective, something
to make a lifetime objective. I need for the body and mind to
be in harmony. Retaining radiant health is more fascinating to
me than another mathematical theorem to leave for posterity. It
was obvious my passion was misplaced.
My preference became crystal clear I was not meant
to be a mathematician after all. At that moment I made my decision:
Mathematics was in good hands; I, on the other hand, had to get
out fast and find a way not to end up like her. I never went back
to classes. Since then, I have met beautiful, vibrant women far
older than she but at the time, she was the catalyst.
How are your books different from other
books about beauty? I am not your typical author. Most
beauty books are written by former beauties queens that have already
capitalized on getting lucky in the looks lottery. By contrast,
I was a plain woman and even disabled. Like most plain women I
wanted to be beautiful. In my heart I always knew that the day
will come when I will be able to walk without a limp. I just have
to find a way to look youthful and beautiful when it happens.
When women compliment me on my appearance, complexion
in particular, I always say even though I am immensely happy with
the result I got on the raw food diet, their transformation will
be more striking. If I was able to fulfill my dream despite adversity
and being over the age of 40, then any woman, every woman, can
fulfill her dream of being beautiful.
Did you find it easy to eat a raw diet in
the early stages? What did you find difficult and what helped
you the most? Like everyone, I made several false starts.
Cooked food is as difficult to give up as alcohol or nicotine,
and sometimes people backslide. It requires determination to keep
going. The hardest thing, of course, was chocolate. For almost
everyone, chocolate is love. In my case, it was further imprinted
on my psyche by the fact that my mother had worked in a chocolate
factory and my girlhood traumas were comforted by her gifts of
chocolate.
It's not easy to eat raw at first. It can be extremely
frustrating and requires intense discipline at all time. While
it isn't easy, it is ultimately simple. It's only difficult to
the extent that we're still trying to change our habits and conditioning.
Be aware that you'll probably fall off the raw wagon many times.
You will become discouraged and frustrated. But if you persist,
it will become easier, and then effortless.
How long have you been eating a raw food
diet and what does your diet look like now? I have been
100% raw since 1997. I now eat better quality food and less quantity.
The longer I stay raw, the less food I need to sustain and satisfy
me and the better I feel and look. A few things are musts: vegetable
juice once or twice daily and green salads with seaweed. The fruits
I eat vary.
I try not to eat after 3pm. I get a refreshing night's
sleep that way. The stomach is made of muscles, and late eating
makes it work hard at night. Eating late suppresses the release
of human growth hormone credited for rejuvenation of the body
because it is secreting insulin to digest food. Having a period
of time when the stomach is not bulging helps to shrink the protruding
stomach that comes from constant eating.
What did you eat and drink today? Is this
a typical day for you? I had green vegetable juice at
7 a.m. Then I had another vegetable juice and a handful of soaked
nuts at 11:00 a.m. At 3 p.m., I had a bowl of salad (tomatoes,
red bell pepper with dulse) and tahini dressing. This is an ideal
day for me. If I do not eat after 3 p.m., I will awake euphoric
the next morning. I love it.
When I am having a hard day, I need comfort foods-just
like everyone else. My comfort foods are fruits and berries. But
I am much better off if I do not eat between my basic meals.
If I really want to indulge myself, I make my favorite
dessert. In a regular blender or Vita-Mix, I combine 1 ripe banana,
2 heaped teaspoons raw black tahini, 2 heaped teaspoons raw carob,
and a pinch of stevia (ground leaf). I add some coconut water,
depending on how thick I want it to be, and blend until smooth.
This dessert is only for mature taste. If you never used stevia
you can add 2 dates. As a recovered chocoholic, I try to stay
away from dried fruits because they trigger my sweet tooth. However,
I ate a lot of dates initially when I gave up refined sugar.
In what ways has becoming beautiful through
a raw vegan diet changed your life?
Someone once said that you cannot appreciate happiness
until you have experienced unhappiness. Because I initially suffered
from an infirmity and then adopted the raw food lifestyle, I am
in the unique position of having experienced something that does
not happen very often. I went from feeling like a freak to feeling
beautiful. It was an incredible transformation. I would gladly
go through everything again just to experience the way I am now.
I now feel that much of my success is the response
to my improved looks. And my new self-confidence improves my looks
even more. I have found a juvenescent diet! The raw food lifestyle
is the best thing ever happened to me. At 47 I am enjoying the
best health and appearance. Hardly a day goes by without someone
telling me that I am beautiful! If I am dreaming, don't wake me
up!
How long would you say it took for you to
see really visible improvements in your appearance? Would you
say your appearance is still improving even now?
I saw visible differences within the first three months. My features
became sleeker and more refined. Changes are still happening,
but they are less dramatic now. Perhaps more importantly, I am
holding the ground I gained almost eight years ago. I started
to look younger almost immediately, and I do not think I have
aged at all.
What non-physical benefits have you experienced
through eating a raw vegan diet (e.g. emotional, intellectual,
spiritual, flowering of talents, work-related, etc.)?
All of a sudden I started discovering talents I never thought
I possessed. I started to write, took up public speaking, and
began to sing at church-things I had never done before.
I am very focused. I am much stronger emotionally.
I never suffer from depression, and I actually enjoy solving problems
instead of letting them overwhelm me.
My personality changed. The goodness coming into
my body as food brought gratitude to my soul and intensified my
desire to share this lifestyle with others.
Who is your book written for? Women
like me. Plain women, imperfect women, women who long to be beautiful.
For the women who always wanted to be beautiful but gave up on
beauty as completely unattainable. My book is also for the women
who look to dermabrasions and face lifts, collagen and Botox injections.
I also know who my books are not for: women who
are making a statement with their neglected appearance will not
even open my book for fear of being contaminated by vanity. These
are the people who, to paraphrase Cyril Scott, are vain about
not being vain about their appearance. My advice to them is that
if the diet improves their looks too much, they can always wear
a sack over their heads.
What would you say to someone who wants
to look beautiful but is experiencing inner tension because s/he
has a niggling feeling that a desire to become beautiful is vain,
especially when there are so many problems in the world that need
attention? My countryman, Dostoyevsky, made the profound
observation "Beauty saves the world."
What relationship can the raw food lifestyle
possibly have with anything?
It has everything to do with your life, global issues,
the alleviation of suffering, in making a difference. My books
have very little, if anything, to do with superficial beauty.
Beauty is how health and wholesomeness should present itself to
the world. Start with yourself and then you will be better equipped
to handle the problems of the world. If you are happy within,
you can change what is without.
Do you feel you are in any way dependent
upon being beautiful for your happiness?
Let's clarify what happiness is. Happiness means
different things for different people. But we all agree that happiness
is a by-product-it is what we feel when we succeed in what we
love to do. For me it is growth: professional, physical, intellectual,
spiritual. Happiness reveals itself as something pleasant in contrast
to something that is not as pleasant, so it is a reaction to the
improvement in the life condition. To feel happy, it is important
to remember the contrast. In this sense, Rawsome beauty brings
happiness because it is continuous improvement. Conventional beauty
can never enjoy this aspect of life. Happiness does not come from
what we get easily; it is the aftertaste of satisfaction that
comes after the achievement of a difficult task that demanded
our best.
I discovered that losing gray hair and eye bags
made me happy. In this sense, I can say beauty does make me happy.
I was very aware of my blessings even before my transformation.
I have a husband who loves me, a caring son, and a new life in
a great country. Internally, I believe my newfound beauty made
me feel that I truly deserve my blessings. It made me more comfortable
with my bounty.
I have a growing sense of authenticity about my
appearance. It is not arrogant to be appreciative of changes I
am going through. Nor is it narcissistic to feel good about myself,
my appearance in particular. Being anything short of our natural
being makes us frustrated and unhappy. The farther I am from my
real self the unhappier I will be; the closer I am the happier
I will be. Realization that I am "wonderfully and beautifully
made" is not my doing, and appreciation will be the natural
response of anyone who realizes this truth. The result of becoming
my true self is stupendous. I began to live with a security, a
confidence, and an inner peace with my new found health and beauty.
Do you truly believe that anybody can become
beautiful through a raw diet, or is it necessary to have 'the
basics' of beauty in terms of features and bone structure to begin
with?
In achieving Rawsome Beauty "the basics"
of beauty give the recipient only a minute advantage. As you get
older, how tall or how blonde you were born becomes irrelevant.
After 40, a glowing complexion is far more important than long
legs. Shining and full hair is more important than its color.
Clear eyes become a much bigger asset than their size. After 40,
any waist line is an achievement. Any proportion is a plus, not
just 36-24-36. Also it is good to know that features and bone
structure do improve dramatically on the raw food diet.
Recently the raw food movement got a celebrity infusion.
Carol Alt wrote a book: Eating in the Raw. Life magazine calls
her "the next million dollar face" and Playboy crowned
with the title "the most beautiful woman in the world".
When she was racing cars, playing tennis, and shooting movies,
I was fighting to be able to walk. When she was showing her gorgeous
body to the world, I was hiding mine even from my own husband.
Where she valued beauty because it helped her achieve good things
in life, I craved beauty as the only thing that could validate
my existence.
She came to the raw food lifestyle to preserve her
most precious asset; I came to it as a way to achieve the beauty
that would make my burdens bearable.Deep down I think I look just
as good as she does. Even if by saying this I lose some credibility
and you think I am living in cloud-cuckoo-land, you have to agree
that most people over 40 do not have as much confidence in their
looks. Blame it on raw foods. It will give you a sky high confidence.
How about socializing? Adjustments
have to be made. I have become very good at making the best of
almost any situation but it does require discipline and ingenuity.
My husband and I just came back from a 10 day Caribbean cruise
celebrating our 25th wedding anniversary. There was NOTHING for
me to eat! So I came up with a solution: I ate watermelon breakfast,
lunch and dinner. The doctor at our table kept telling me: Tonya,
with allthis watermelon and no protein, you are going to wet your
bed.
I was the talk of the cruise. The waiters called
me The Watermelon Lady. I loved it! It gave me a chance to illustrate
my position. After 10 days, I never looked or felt better! Since
I am at my optimal weight, I did not lose even a pound! But I
did miss good quality raw foods. I could not wait to get back
to the car where I kept one organic apple! Nothing ever tasted
more delicious!
We enjoyed the cruise but we both agreed that from
now on we will only go on healthy vacations. Drinking, eating
to satiety and partying all night are just not my type of fun.
The raw foods constitute my essence now. My life and my very being
are saturated by its practice, science, and philosophy. Also I
tend to gravitate to health conscience people who are most likely
to be at yoga and raw food retreats and juice fasting resorts.
How much water do you drink? Since
I have vegetable juices once or twice per day (including several
stalks of celery-great source of organic sodium) blueberries,
watermelon, coconut water, I get plenty of biologically pure water.
I drink distilled water on the days I perform a water fast.
Since carving my niche in the raw food community
by studying how the raw food diet improves physical appearance,
I am especially tuned in to how the raw food people look. I've
noticed that people who always carry around a bottle of water
usually have slightly visible eye bags. Eye bags are an indication
that the kidneys are overburdened.
The Raw food diet includes fruits and vegetables
as well as soaked nuts and seeds, all of which are already 70-85%
water. Adding copious amounts of water like the recommended 6-8
glasses is too much of a good thing. There is actually a condition
called water toxicity when sodium levels and other body salts,
or electrolytes, in the blood become too diluted. It causes the
sodium levels to drop and the brain to swell. The extreme case
of such condition was in Britain when The Times reported a 23-year-old
man going into a coma for four days after a 21-day of diet of
fruit, vegetables, juice and water. He was drinking at least 5
liters of water a day.
What is your opinion on supplements?
If you have a deficiency you must take a supplement for your deficiency
but I think that using supplements to insure health is irresponsible.
Any supplement taken for a prolonged time will create an imbalance
that will aggravate another problem.
Today science knows much more than it knew yesterday,
so last year supplements are inferior to the ones on the market
today. And tomorrow's will have what is missing in today's. Every
day some new vital component or necessity for health is discovered.
Boron is the latest vital nutrient. The process
of trying to emulate nature is endless. Ignorance has no beginning,
but it has anend. There is a beginning but no end to knowledge.
There are infinitely more needs to be discovered. Therefore, no
man- made supplement can ever be good enough. When you use the
raw organic produce you benefit from cellular communication and
balance without knowing it.
The myth is: It is virtually impossible to eat enough
food to get all the nutrients the body needs on a daily basis,
taking multivitamin supplements is the healthy alternative. This
idea is not true if you are on the raw food diet.
I did very well my first six years without taking
any supplements on the regular basis. However, I did try some
most popular ones among the raw food people: MSM, Spirulina and
so on. I really did not notice any dramatic differences. After
achieving a perfectly balanced dietary regimen, my body was so
healthy and balanced that I was receiving everything I needed
without any supplementation. I reached the pinnacle of health
on my own, but there is nothing wrong with experimenting.Several
months ago I read Gabrial Cousens' article. It said that about
80% of vegans and raw food people could develop B12 deficiency.
However the other 20% do not develop any B12 deficiency. I believe
I am in this 20% because I have optimized the 100% raw food diet
for myself.
Even though my blood work showed no deficiency,
recently I started to take Nutritional Yeast as a B12 suppliment.
Why? Just for the peace of mind. For me it was either take B12
or have regular blood tests done. After enduring multiple operations,
I have a strong aversion to any medical procedures. So I use it
in my daily juice. It is not a raw product. However it does not
produce cook food cravings and it eased my mind. I take this compromise.
But this is the only supplement I take!
Don't you get bored eating only raw food?
On the raw food diet I don't graze in the garden, dig up the squirrel's
nuts or dine out at the birdfeeder. I was introduced to new preparation
techniques that allowed me to create nutritious meals. The variety
on the cooked diet comes from vegetable side dishes. There are
100s of different kinds of fruits and veggies, nuts and seeds
with a variety of tastes and flavors. If I combine only two or
three ingredients at each meal, then the number of dish combinations
is endless.
One would think some of your claims in your
book are exaggerated. What can you say about it? Some
people might think that I come across too bold with my claims.
In reality, I noticed any words I use are not strong enough to
describe the experiences that come about on this diet. I insist
that the raw food lifestyle delivers not only everything I promised
but much more that I could possibly describe using even the most
sensational words in English language. As an example that is how
the word "rawsome" came about. It flowered from the
raw food community for the simple reason there was no right word
to convey this particular degree of good. In other words my promises
of benefits on the Rawsome Diet pale compared to the richness
of the actual results you will experience.
Can you share a favorite raw food recipe?
Black Tahini Shake
2 bananas
2 rounded tablespoons black tahini
2 rounded tablespoons raw carob
1 coconut (water only)
Combine all the ingredients in a blender or Vita-Mix
and liquefy.